tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4942719624481214321.post5277293093656526329..comments2024-03-13T12:01:30.303+11:00Comments on Billablog: Their GenerationBillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03412983524190021368noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4942719624481214321.post-53907260987162416542009-09-05T15:50:46.332+10:002009-09-05T15:50:46.332+10:00There's something about '69 that has peopl...There's something about '69 that has people excited.Miahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17881826389793941197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4942719624481214321.post-3402453626426844282009-08-21T09:00:32.439+10:002009-08-21T09:00:32.439+10:00I think this is just inevitable. We're going ...I think this is just inevitable. We're going to lots of 40th birthdays at the moment - so yes, it's the time for it!<br /><br />What will be gen X claim to fame?<br />We lived though the Newcastle earthquake, the hawke/keating years? I suppose there's also the twin towers anniversaries...Lisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03075362324473272101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4942719624481214321.post-49804137338670287232009-08-20T09:51:59.176+10:002009-08-20T09:51:59.176+10:00It is true that defining and contrasting generatio...It is true that defining and contrasting generations in such a narrow way is divisive. I am using it as a conceit to highlight the hypocrisy of those who said "never trust anyone over 30" and "hope I die before I get old." <br />Pete Townshend said as early as the 70s, "I'm an old fart too - but not boring!" I can get into that.<br /><br />The civil rights act was not passed by a bunch of idealistic dropouts. It was passed by a congress full of mostly ageing white men and the president who signed it predicted with depressing accuracy that it would lose them the south for a generation. But they had the courage to do it anyway because it was right. Had it been up to Johnson alone, it might never have happened, but he was obliged to finish what Kennedy had started.<br /><br />Allen Ginsberg was a generation removed from the hippies, but became a voice of that culture. I've already stated that I have nothing against the ones who stuck by their story.<br /><br />That brings us neatly to Jefferson Airplane. I don't need Grace Slick lecturing me about the drug imagery in Lewis Carroll like she was the first one to notice. Yes, he's smoking a hookah. We get it! But it was that band who eventually morphed into the band that gave us "We Built This City." Of course, many better artists lost the plot in the 80s too. That's why I spent most of the 80s listening to the Beatles and Pink Floyd. <br /><br />Woodstock didn't change anything. It was an amazing conert with some legendary performances. What's wrong with just calling it that? As I wrote in another unrelated piece, attempting to overstate achievements only ends up diminishing them. Self-indulgence is not political activism. <br />And if the 60s vets are pissed off because the younger generations don't understand or appreciate the battles they fought, well isn't that ironic?<br /><br />I do agree that British whimsical psychedelia is preferable to the po-faced American brand.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03412983524190021368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4942719624481214321.post-72740503175232072392009-08-20T04:45:49.024+10:002009-08-20T04:45:49.024+10:00Mrs.P, do you know who Allen Ginsberg was? You'...Mrs.P, do you know who Allen Ginsberg was? You're here to defend your friend and you don't know what you're talking about. Bill is adult and he can defend himself. By the way, he knows who I am. ;)<br />Ginsberg was a POET born in 1926. It's OBVIOUS that the song isn't about him! It's not a song about HIS generation. <br /><br />"I can't seem to find the part where you said that the 60's generation 'didn't change the world' and that their achievments weren't important"<br /><br />Read these lyrics again:<br /><br />"What happened to the revolution? Where did you go wrong?<br />Did you think you’d make it happen just by singing protest songs?<br />Do you really think that Woodstock made the world a better place?<br />Just a hundred thousand muddy hippies getting off their face!<br />And you have the gall to tell us that our music has no worth<br />Should we let your surrealistic pillow smother all the earth?"<br /><br />It's a contradition to say that the song is about this or that hippie that sold out his values. The 60's was all about THE MASS doing everything together. If you talk about the few, you're talking about the many. There's no separation. <br />Information is available for everyone today but if people prefer to remain ignorant, it's their option. "Surrealistic Pillow" is a great album,it's better than everything made in the 80's but I prefer the childish playful Britsh psychedelia.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taAyi_LRFDAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4942719624481214321.post-62404509316260083472009-08-19T14:14:19.230+10:002009-08-19T14:14:19.230+10:00Great Post Bill.
I think the person who has no gu...Great Post Bill.<br /><br />I think the person who has no guts to comment under their real name has kinda missed the point of your post. I can't seem to find the part where you said that the 60's generation 'didn't change the world' and that their achievments weren't important. Maybe we are reading a different post? May I suggest Anon read through the post again, paying particular attention to the paragraph that says...'the song really isn’t about people like him. It’s about the ones who sold out their values, if indeed, they ever had any.'Kylez..aka...Mrs.P!https://www.blogger.com/profile/04543878426779826398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4942719624481214321.post-18058306852174139192009-08-19T13:11:44.144+10:002009-08-19T13:11:44.144+10:00I don't think you would like to have my underw...I don't think you would like to have my underwear. I'm the last person in the world you would want such a thing but I want the stand-alone copy with autograph.<br /><br />I think this "my generation, your generation" is so separatist...<br /><br />"Do you really think that Woodstock made the world a better place?"<br />The Woodstock DID make the world a better place. If you analize the whole generation based on what you watched at the Woodstock, you will find everything nonsense and stupid specially. If your only perspective of the 60's is based on what happened in US and UK, it's a limited perspective. Look at the whole picture. <br />The 60's continues to have a profound impact on our society today - from American foreign policy to the birth of the environmental and gay rights and women's liberation movements.<br />Some facts:<br />In the 1960s, blacks made a transition, especially on the college campus, from being Negroes, to being black, to being Afro-Americans. When they said, 'I'm black and I'm proud,' that meant something. Would this transition happen if the white youth weren't supportive?<br />At San Francisco State University, students held a 134-day strike in an effort to draw attention to the university's diverse population and the need for ethnic studies departments. In the end, their struggle led to the creation of a black studies department, but at a cost of 700 arrested.<br />The counter-culture reached its high point with Woodstock, the largest and last rock festival of its kind. <br />The Woodstock inspired many South American artists.<br />In my country, many artists were "invited" to leave the country because of the censorship. The logo was "Brazil: love it or leave it". <br />Listen to this song. <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM_2EdyytaU<br /><br />The song was written by Caetano Veloso when he was invited to leave Brazil and exiled in London. The song is not what it appears to be. It's not a love song about London. In the song, Caetano Veloso talks about the freedom he had in London, how kind the policeman was. The "Flying Saucer in the Sky" verse is not a trippy thing. In the 60's, the government started talking about flying saucers to change the focus, they were killing people and they didn't want people to know it. Caetano sings "While my eyes go looking for flying saucers in the sky" and that means "Where are the flying saucers?". <br />Now tell me, how didn't they change the world? They failed in some things but they did their best in the name of a better, fair, equal world. If today we talk about peace, it's beacuse of the 60's generation. If today we have ONGS, it's because of them. What the next generations did was to keep the what the 60's generation did. I was born in 1982 and the Military left the power in 1985, that means a lot to me. I applaud the 60's generation. My generation fortunately didn't have to make anything.<br />Expand your world <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWZDqHe3Tws<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzDmvlmBWwQ<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0h7QCXV8rc<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANModWL1R78<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjWynMA2-Y0<br /><br />StalkerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com